commentary and analysis

commentary and analysis Comments on "The Interpretation of Short Climate Records with Comments on the North Atlantic and Southern Oscillations" Reply Comment on "Reply to the Comments ofTrenberth and Hurreir Reply to Rajagopalan, Lall, and Cane's Comment about The Interpretation of Short Climate Records with Comments on the North Atlantic and Southern Oscillations' Editorial Note: In the following suite of formal comments and responses we are following unusual proce- dure; we are providing a venue for a valuable but unusual scientific exchange that involves multiple articles. Comments on "Th e Interpretation of anomalies (Wunsch used annual anomalies) with an Shor t Climate Records wit h Comments Autoregressive Moving Average (ARMA) model of order (3,1), which reduced the residuals to white noise on the North Atlantic and Southern random values. The latter is the definition of a good Oscillations" model statistically (e.g., Brockwell and Davis 1991)— in contrast to Wunsch's claim that "the specific ARMA model ofTrenberth and Hoar (1997) is prob- C. Wunsch (1999) has correctly cautioned re- ably too great an underparameterization of the time searchers that evidence for trends or nonstationarity series (i.e., not sufficiently structured)." of climate records must take into account the behav- Wunsch cites the work of http://www.deepdyve.com/assets/images/DeepDyve-Logo-lg.png Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society American Meteorological Society

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American Meteorological Society
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1520-0477
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10.1175/1520-0477-80.12.2721
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Comments on "The Interpretation of Short Climate Records with Comments on the North Atlantic and Southern Oscillations" Reply Comment on "Reply to the Comments ofTrenberth and Hurreir Reply to Rajagopalan, Lall, and Cane's Comment about The Interpretation of Short Climate Records with Comments on the North Atlantic and Southern Oscillations' Editorial Note: In the following suite of formal comments and responses we are following unusual proce- dure; we are providing a venue for a valuable but unusual scientific exchange that involves multiple articles. Comments on "Th e Interpretation of anomalies (Wunsch used annual anomalies) with an Shor t Climate Records wit h Comments Autoregressive Moving Average (ARMA) model of order (3,1), which reduced the residuals to white noise on the North Atlantic and Southern random values. The latter is the definition of a good Oscillations" model statistically (e.g., Brockwell and Davis 1991)— in contrast to Wunsch's claim that "the specific ARMA model ofTrenberth and Hoar (1997) is prob- C. Wunsch (1999) has correctly cautioned re- ably too great an underparameterization of the time searchers that evidence for trends or nonstationarity series (i.e., not sufficiently structured)." of climate records must take into account the behav- Wunsch cites the work of

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Published: Dec 1, 1999

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