An attempt was made to excite the 4 f electron spectrum of Ag II in the Schüler tube with helium. Failure is discussed assuming the excitation process Ag normal atom+ He + . Some little extension was made to the lower spectrum. The Schüler tube was also used to extend the 4 d 8 6 s and 5 d configurations of Pd II. About forty terms were added. A complete list of lines arising from high levels is given.
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