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162 Glaucon's Challenge CHRISTOPHER KIRWAN s something wrong with the argument at the beginning of Republic ! book II? M. B. Foster said yes, in an article in Mind 1937, pp. 386-393, 'A Mistake of Plato's in the Republic'. J. D. Mabbott defended Plato in the same periodical and the same year, pp. 468-474, 'Is Plato's Republic Utilitarian?' Mr. Foster replied the next year, pp. 226-232, 'A Rejoinder to Mr. Mabbott'. Neither party won an outright victory, but Mr. Mabbott's position is, I think, the stronger. I shall try to improve it, regaining ground that he wrongly conceded and covering a flank that he left exposed. 'I want to hear it praised itself by itself (Rep. 358 d I) .' So Glaucon challenges Socrates to refute the Thrasymachean view of justice more effectively than he has done in Book I. Later Adeimantus says (367 d2) : Commend that feature of justice by which it benefits the man who has it itself on its own account, and injustice harms him; leave to others to commend rewards and reputations. These two formulae have been held to conflict. Socrates might fairly complain, it is thought, that he does not know whether
Phronesis – Brill
Published: Jan 1, 1965
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